FORMER HOME FOR CHILDREN. - Obligation to grant access to the file, or not? - Many 'former home children "continue to be fobbed off!
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A " Former foster child and member " Association of former children in care eV "(" VEHeV "/" VEH "/" VEH eV ") filed electronically on 29/09/2009 diesbetreffend a petition the Petitions of the German Bundestag .
later more than a year before ( about October 2010 - without giving a date met) from Berlin, a six-page DECISION of Petitions Committee of the German Bundestag to here (just then) in the exact wording listed petition this " former home child" with her in North Rhine-Westphalia.
All this was apparently more than a year federally in Berlin was considered , the same as that lawless body " Roundtable residential care in the 50s and 60s " in Berlin under the auspices of the Protestant theologian Dr. Antje Vollmer ( GREEN ) (launched by Petitions Committee of the German Bundestag on 26 November 2008 and initiated by the German Federal Government in February 2009. Moreover, also sits Marlene Rupprecht , MP ( SPD ) as a member of this " roundtable residential care " both as a member in Petitions Committee ).
on after performing here (just then) this petition the release of the Home filing will then (finally, at the bottom) a link to this DECISION of Petitions Committee of the German Bundestag set so that everyone can form their own opinion TO , and may also take the necessary initiative.
"the former home children" will not give up.
Public Petitions
at the German
Bundestag Petitions Committee
Platz der Republik 1 11011 Berlin
Date: 09/29/2009
petitioner: Ms. V ... ... ........., Karoline
Location: ........ ..............
Postcode: ... ..
punishment & Home: ........................
Location: Germany / Nordrhein-Westfalen
Phone: .....................
E-mail Address: .....................
wording of the petition / What you want to reach specific with your petition?
home document and related by-document must be accessible free of charge for former children in care. This Petitions relating to filing of municipal and ecclesiastical home operators. The right to inspect documents may not be limited by retention periods and destruction. Here I point to urgency, because many files will be destroyed, even though the relevant people clearly desire the realization of the Act. Canon law in this case may not be above the constitution.
Please explain your petition!
legal interests are not in the foreground, as the childhood of the seekers often was committed a long time. Home files and the corresponding any by filing, registration or school records are often the only source of information for Former resident, from which they can bring something from their childhood, and therefore about themselves in experience. Here I point to Article 2 (1) of the Basic Law. For free development of personality is the knowledge of what happened in childhood, and what has led to placement in a children's home. A violation of the rights of third I do not see here.
have in relation to the retention periods of above-mentioned document, I get different information. So it seems a clear provision to give at all here. Therefore, there should be no restrictions of retention periods.
is in relation to the destruction of records is amazing to me home, how many files were either destroyed, can not be found, various forces of nature or simply to have fallen victim. I even got to my request for access to the file, first the oral notice, the files were no longer there. A subsequent inquiry led to the same office: the file would be in a dilapidated basement, which is therefore not allowed to enter. Understand is that the archiving of file space needs. Must be destroyed for this reason, home records, must decide that the person on whom the Act was passed. A proposal Währe to hand over such a home record of the corresponding former foster child. When should lack the Destruction of the Act are noted before this takes place.
want in regard to the urgency I have not mentioned that former institutionalized children is access to the file, despite the law refused to do so. Worse, it will be destroyed just the acts in which someone wishes to inspect. But now ask more and more former children in care, because we are interested in a scientific analysis of this topic. Article 5 (3) states: "Art and science, research and teaching are free. Freedom of teaching does not absolve from loyalty to the Constitution. "Therefore, do not understand why we have former children in care such massive problems with the insight of our home files. We fear the elimination of additional home records, and a scholarly review is therefore impossible.
In terms of home files kept in the possession of the churches, they are almost unattainable for former children in care. In the only response I received in this regard, it was pointed, and others on the church law. Then the churches because of the anchorage in the Basic Law Article 140 the right to resolve internal matters subject characteristics themselves, however, the canon law should not stand above the Constitution.
If you want to give suggestions (such as keywords or questions) for the online discussion can use this field.
Dear Ladies and gentlemen,
what this petition is not legal to be pursued. The denigration of the churches is not our goal. We hope to develop our childhood and we know what happened to us, and why the accommodation in a children's home was at all necessary. Furthermore, we are eager to finally meet the taboo and the associated prejudices with which we have former resident, or today's home children to do over again.
We are interested in the scholarly review of our home time. For this we need our home files. No scientist can work if it is not the necessary equipment provided.
As far as you think it's important to send additional documents in copy (eg decisions of the authority concerned, complaints, judgments) upon receipt of the file number by post to
______________________________
Contact:
support and consultancy
Secretariat of the Committee on Petitions
place der Republik 1 11011 Berlin
Tel: (030) 227 35 257
E-mail: e-petitionen@bundestag.de
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DECISION of Petitions Committee of the German Bundestag as PDF - document available through the club website " Association of former children in care eV " (" VEHeV " / " VEH " / " VEH eV ) @ http://www.veh-ev.info/archiv/beschluss_petition_heimakten.pdf (these six pages from official hand [ the federal authorities in Berlin ? ] are numbered 40 to 46 and no date is specified in this document).
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My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: A hearing or proceeding without qualified legal counsel, the law is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "law", their attempts to minimize this behavior.
My [ie. Martin Mitchell's] own current signature: negotiation with The Perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without legal counsel present and QUALIFIED by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapacity and incapability of a country's "constitutionality" and it's "democracy".
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" We must not wait until the freedom struggle, called treason '. "(Erich Kästner )
Friday, October 29, 2010
Monday, October 18, 2010
Tight Fitting Snowboard Pants
FORMER HOME FOR CHILDREN. - Upcoming event with the pedagogues, social workers and youth therapists Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes.
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From private information:
Upcoming Event with Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes
On Wednesday, 10/11/2010 at 19:30 clock Prof. Kappeler holds a lecture in:
48 249 Dülmen , Old Savings Bank, Münsterstr. Coesfeldstr corner. VHS Dülmen , 32 Ostring back entrance.
information on VHS Dülmen 02594-12472, 02364-933440 holders, Mr. Smith.
Dülmen located west of and outside Muenster, North Rhine-Westphalia.
what extent and to whom all this is already known, could not be determined on the fly
traumatic memories of a destroyed
Childhood and youth
", if your will is broken"
beatings, sexual abuse and forced labor were among the many children's homes of the postwar years to the day. Between the late 40s to mid 70s in Germany were around 800,000 children and young people in public education - about two-thirds of them in religious homes.
Manfred Kappeler is child and adolescent psychotherapist and professor emeritus of social education at the Technical University of Berlin [ Technical University Berlin ] . He is the author of the book " entrusted and delivered " and reports on the development of home education in Germany. He takes particular the 40s to 70s in the view. A time that was marked by strong and unrelenting rigor authority to psychological and physical abuse. With
Friedhelm Münter it is at this evening lecture a witness to the side, for he himself is in such a home grown. Münter is shown to be directly affected, as the life he has looked at the home. In a most impressive and depressing at the same time, he shares his memories of the absolute duty of obedience, which he has experienced and the emotional blackmail, which was on the agenda, with. For today, as an adult, Münter sees its task in the history of systematic physical and psychological violence against children in institutions to the general public to provide.
Venue: Dülmen
start date: 11/10/2010
SOURCE: % 3A6% http://www8.duelmen.de/vhs/webbasys/index.php?urlparameter=kathaupt 3Bknr 3AD4027%%% 3Bbrowse 3Aforward% 3Bknradd: D8009 (scroll down there)
OTHER SOURCE : Again on page 17 in the 288 pages (2.39 MB) PDF complete - document @ http://www8.duelmen.de/vhs/programm2_2010.pdf to find .
VHS - Adult Education DÜLMEN HOLDERS AM SEE-Havixbecker - The local training center
Additional info regarding the new book by Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes:
entrusted and delivered: Sexual violence in educational institutions [Paperback]
• Paperback: 176 pages
• Publisher: Nicolai (November 2010)
• Language: German
• ISBN-10: 389479626X
• ISBN-13 : 978-3894796266
MORE IN Amazon @ http://www.amazon.de/Anvertraut-ausgeliefert-Sexuelle-p% C3% A4dagogischen-Einrichtungen/dp/389479626X
MORE IN Lehmann @ http://www.lehmanns.de/shop/sachbuch-ratgeber/14064600-9783894796266-anvertraut-und-ausgeliefert
SEE ALSO Nicolai Verlag Berlin @ http://www .nicolai-verlag.de/shop-rebuild/catalog/product_info.php? products_id = 266
This notification is based on "Former foster child" Martin Mitchell in Australia.
operator of enlightenment and self-help Web site HOME FOR CHILDREN UEBERLEBENDE.ORG @ http://www.heimkinder-ueberlebende.org/
operators FORMER CHILDREN'S HOME BLOG 1 @ http:/ / www.heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/
operators FORMER CHILDREN'S HOME BLOG 2 @ http://www.heimkinderopfer2.blogspot.com/
addition, I have the same - as today - many, many recipients via mail in round about this event Dulmen, near Münster informed.
Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes has always been, right from the beginning, an active supporter of the cause of the "former children in care" and is also the one in May 2010, the 17-page critique to 17 Appearing in January 2010 " Report » published Roundtable residential care in the 50s and 60s "has. His criticism can be found here @ http://www.gewalt-im-jhh.de/Kappeler_zu_ZB_RTH.pdf
Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes was also on our "home children demo " 15 April 2010 in Berlin present as a demonstrator and has even there held a relevant question.
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My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: A hearing or proceeding without qualified legal counsel, the law is like a building without base - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "law", their attempts to minimize this behavior.
My [ie. Martin Mitchell's] own current signature: negotiation with The Perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without legal counsel present and QUALIFIED by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation – a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapability and incapacity of a country’s "constitutionality" and it’s "democracy".
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„ Man darf nicht warten, bis der Freiheitskampf ‚Landesverrat‘ genannt wird. “ ( Erich Kästner )
.
From private information:
Upcoming Event with Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes
48 249 Dülmen , Old Savings Bank, Münsterstr. Coesfeldstr corner. VHS Dülmen , 32 Ostring back entrance.
information on VHS Dülmen 02594-12472, 02364-933440 holders, Mr. Smith.
Dülmen located west of and outside Muenster, North Rhine-Westphalia.
what extent and to whom all this is already known, could not be determined on the fly
traumatic memories of a destroyed
Childhood and youth
", if your will is broken"
beatings, sexual abuse and forced labor were among the many children's homes of the postwar years to the day. Between the late 40s to mid 70s in Germany were around 800,000 children and young people in public education - about two-thirds of them in religious homes.
Manfred Kappeler is child and adolescent psychotherapist and professor emeritus of social education at the Technical University of Berlin [ Technical University Berlin ] . He is the author of the book " entrusted and delivered " and reports on the development of home education in Germany. He takes particular the 40s to 70s in the view. A time that was marked by strong and unrelenting rigor authority to psychological and physical abuse. With
Friedhelm Münter it is at this evening lecture a witness to the side, for he himself is in such a home grown. Münter is shown to be directly affected, as the life he has looked at the home. In a most impressive and depressing at the same time, he shares his memories of the absolute duty of obedience, which he has experienced and the emotional blackmail, which was on the agenda, with. For today, as an adult, Münter sees its task in the history of systematic physical and psychological violence against children in institutions to the general public to provide.
Venue: Dülmen
start date: 11/10/2010
SOURCE: % 3A6% http://www8.duelmen.de/vhs/webbasys/index.php?urlparameter=kathaupt 3Bknr 3AD4027%%% 3Bbrowse 3Aforward% 3Bknradd: D8009 (scroll down there)
OTHER SOURCE : Again on page 17 in the 288 pages (2.39 MB) PDF complete - document @ http://www8.duelmen.de/vhs/programm2_2010.pdf to find .
VHS - Adult Education DÜLMEN HOLDERS AM SEE-Havixbecker - The local training center
Additional info regarding the new book by Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes:
entrusted and delivered: Sexual violence in educational institutions [Paperback]
• Paperback: 176 pages
• Publisher: Nicolai (November 2010)
• Language: German
• ISBN-10: 389479626X
• ISBN-13 : 978-3894796266
MORE IN Amazon @ http://www.amazon.de/Anvertraut-ausgeliefert-Sexuelle-p% C3% A4dagogischen-Einrichtungen/dp/389479626X
MORE IN Lehmann @ http://www.lehmanns.de/shop/sachbuch-ratgeber/14064600-9783894796266-anvertraut-und-ausgeliefert
SEE ALSO Nicolai Verlag Berlin @ http://www .nicolai-verlag.de/shop-rebuild/catalog/product_info.php? products_id = 266
This notification is based on "Former foster child" Martin Mitchell in Australia.
operator of enlightenment and self-help Web site HOME FOR CHILDREN UEBERLEBENDE.ORG @ http://www.heimkinder-ueberlebende.org/
operators FORMER CHILDREN'S HOME BLOG 1 @ http:/ / www.heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/
operators FORMER CHILDREN'S HOME BLOG 2 @ http://www.heimkinderopfer2.blogspot.com/
addition, I have the same - as today - many, many recipients via mail in round about this event Dulmen, near Münster informed.
Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes has always been, right from the beginning, an active supporter of the cause of the "former children in care" and is also the one in May 2010, the 17-page critique to 17 Appearing in January 2010 " Report » published Roundtable residential care in the 50s and 60s "has. His criticism can be found here @ http://www.gewalt-im-jhh.de/Kappeler_zu_ZB_RTH.pdf
Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes was also on our "home children demo " 15 April 2010 in Berlin present as a demonstrator and has even there held a relevant question.
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Everyone can also HERE a substantive comment in this FORMER HOME KIDS BLOG 2 to this " FORMER HOME FOR CHILDREN. - Upcoming event with the pedagogues, social workers and youth therapists Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes. "report - AND ALSO TO ANY OTHER REPORT IN THIS BLOG ! - give, and every such comment will then be HERE also visible to all readers.
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_________________________________________________________________
My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: A hearing or proceeding without qualified legal counsel, the law is like a building without base - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "law", their attempts to minimize this behavior.
My [ie. Martin Mitchell's] own current signature: negotiation with The Perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without legal counsel present and QUALIFIED by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation – a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapability and incapacity of a country’s "constitutionality" and it’s "democracy".
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„ Man darf nicht warten, bis der Freiheitskampf ‚Landesverrat‘ genannt wird. “ ( Erich Kästner )
Saturday, October 16, 2010
Coimbatore Senior Citizens Home
manipulation / wheeling and dealing cubed: ROUND TABLE HOME EDUCATION summary proceedings afterwards dynamically adapted to current conditions
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Liebe "Home children siblings and their supporters !
only after we have made THE INDEPENDENT HOME CHILDREN'S ACTIVISTS in the last three and a half months, enough pressure, the office of the lawless body that " Roundtable residential care in the 50s and 60s "(" RTH "), calls regarding the 'record of results' of the 8th Meeting of the "RTH" on 1 / 2 July 2010 , 13 October 2010, an eight lines long 'addition' made of this document and agree explains the fact - that in this 'addition' of the 'record of results' of the 8th Meeting of the "RTH" - to Dr. Hans-Siegfried Wiegand's website refer to, and only after, Wiegand, has agreed to the completed in May 2010 by Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes 17-page critique to remove the interim report of the "RTH" of 17.01.2010 of this its website, a criticism that earlier was from mid-July 2010, from there as PDF files have been accessed, but now no longer be called from there is.
This 'supplement' with respect to the 8th Meeting of the "RTH" that had not been laid in July / August / September 2010 and had been written, but the one is only now , RETROSPECTIVELY , in October 2010 ! agreed , has , reads now as follows:
"In light of the contributions to injustice and the educational ideas in the home education of the 50s and 60s and the systematization of possible solutions were first approaches and opportunities for forms of tangible and intangible recognition and rehabilitation debate. Initial proposals and demands were for presented by the former home children. (The two are among the papers download http://www.ehemalige-heimkinder-am-runden-tisch.de/ or on request from s.djurovic @ t-online.de and eleonore@fleth.eu )
The debate started in the 9th Meeting of the RTH [ 20-21. September 2010 continued ] . "
The" Association of former children in care eV "after notification of the independent home child-activist Martin Mitchell in Australia, on 10/13/2010, that the" record of results' of the 9th Meeting the "RTH" on 20/21. September 2010 since 10/13/2010 is available on a Web page in the U.S., is this "record of results', including the above-cited 'addition' of the 'record of results' of the 8th Meeting of the "RTH" on 1 / 2 July 2010 on its website @ http://www.veh-ev.info/download/Ergebnisprotokoll%% 20Sitzung9 20RTH.pdf now since 10.13.2010 in the German-speaking public.
on official website of the office of the " RTH " itself, however, appears the "record of results' of the 9th Meeting of the "RTH" on 20/21. September 2010 well as the 'addition' of the 'record of results' of the 8th Meeting of the "RTH" on 1 / 2 July 2010 still not (@ See http://www.rundertisch-heimerziehung.de/aktuelles3.htm ).
Wiegand's website ( http://www.ehemalige-heimkinder-am-runden-tisch.de/ on which it is only since mid-July 2010 on all contents are) is registered in the name of Dieter Klimaschewski and is supported by the IT professionals Udo maintained comfort (all people who have settled in early 2009 by the "Association of former children in care eV" to get as Favorites of and unite with Antje Vollmer and their » small Wahrheitskommisssions " and all use it for their ).
Thanks to the spokesman for the disabled children the time, "Helmut Jacob, is the completed in May 2010 by Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes 17-page critique of the interim report of the" RTH "of 17.01.2010 still here @ http : / / www.gewalt-im-jhh.de/Kappeler_zu_ZB_RTH.pdf found (For there have Vollmer and Wiegand & Co. no control !).
UPDATE of Monday, 18 October 2010, at 21:00 clock (GMT) :
» 'record of results' of the 9th Meeting of the Roundtable residential care in the 50's and 60's on 20 / 21 September 2010 "
only since Monday, 18 October 2010, at 15:00 clock (CET) on the website of the office of the " RTH @ http://www.rundertisch-heimerziehung.de/documents/Ergebnisprotokoll_Sitzung9_RTH.pdf available [ this is a DIRECT LINK to this ' results log ' ! ] and also on the list of 'protocols' @ http://www.rundertisch-heimerziehung.de/aktuelles3.htm displayed [ this a DIRECT LINK is this list of ' result protocols ' ! ].
Speaking ALSO - that is to say about this ' results log ' and what this ' results log ' includes and what is not - in review 54 in review 58 and review 60 (top), "in this thread» Roundtable home education is a farce. The expected completion in December 2010 report is ready in August 2010. "in home child-forum.de on 13 October 2010.
The lawless body which is " Round Table called home education in the 50s and 60s ," about the Antje Vollmer chaired keeps lagging behind. And that's only now THERE appears to be, of course THERE not stated; the release date, as always with these ' summary proceedings ' missing.
CROSS REFERENCE : » Regarding this forum» HOME EDUCATION ROUND TABLE ": Should the federal press conference degenerated in terms of victims home to the festival of harmony? "@ http://heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/2010/10/betreffend-diesem-gremium-runder-tisch.html
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My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: A hearing or proceeding without QUALIFIED legal counsel, the law is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "law", where attempts to restrict it.
My [ie. Martin Mitchell's] own current signature: negotiation with The Perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without QUALIFIED legal counsel present and by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapacity and incapability of a country's "constitutionality" and it's "democracy".
__________________________________
" We must not wait until the freedom struggle, called treason '. "(Erich Kästner )
.
Liebe "Home children siblings and their supporters !
only after we have made THE INDEPENDENT HOME CHILDREN'S ACTIVISTS in the last three and a half months, enough pressure, the office of the lawless body that " Roundtable residential care in the 50s and 60s "(" RTH "), calls regarding the 'record of results' of the 8th Meeting of the "RTH" on 1 / 2 July 2010 , 13 October 2010, an eight lines long 'addition' made of this document and agree explains the fact - that in this 'addition' of the 'record of results' of the 8th Meeting of the "RTH" - to Dr. Hans-Siegfried Wiegand's website refer to, and only after, Wiegand, has agreed to the completed in May 2010 by Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes 17-page critique to remove the interim report of the "RTH" of 17.01.2010 of this its website, a criticism that earlier was from mid-July 2010, from there as PDF files have been accessed, but now no longer be called from there is.
This 'supplement' with respect to the 8th Meeting of the "RTH" that had not been laid in July / August / September 2010 and had been written, but the one is only now , RETROSPECTIVELY , in October 2010 ! agreed , has , reads now as follows:
"In light of the contributions to injustice and the educational ideas in the home education of the 50s and 60s and the systematization of possible solutions were first approaches and opportunities for forms of tangible and intangible recognition and rehabilitation debate. Initial proposals and demands were for presented by the former home children. (The two are among the papers download http://www.ehemalige-heimkinder-am-runden-tisch.de/ or on request from s.djurovic @ t-online.de and eleonore@fleth.eu )
The debate started in the 9th Meeting of the RTH [ 20-21. September 2010 continued ] . "
The" Association of former children in care eV "after notification of the independent home child-activist Martin Mitchell in Australia, on 10/13/2010, that the" record of results' of the 9th Meeting the "RTH" on 20/21. September 2010 since 10/13/2010 is available on a Web page in the U.S., is this "record of results', including the above-cited 'addition' of the 'record of results' of the 8th Meeting of the "RTH" on 1 / 2 July 2010 on its website @ http://www.veh-ev.info/download/Ergebnisprotokoll%% 20Sitzung9 20RTH.pdf now since 10.13.2010 in the German-speaking public.
on official website of the office of the " RTH " itself, however, appears the "record of results' of the 9th Meeting of the "RTH" on 20/21. September 2010 well as the 'addition' of the 'record of results' of the 8th Meeting of the "RTH" on 1 / 2 July 2010 still not (@ See http://www.rundertisch-heimerziehung.de/aktuelles3.htm ).
Wiegand's website ( http://www.ehemalige-heimkinder-am-runden-tisch.de/ on which it is only since mid-July 2010 on all contents are) is registered in the name of Dieter Klimaschewski and is supported by the IT professionals Udo maintained comfort (all people who have settled in early 2009 by the "Association of former children in care eV" to get as Favorites of and unite with Antje Vollmer and their » small Wahrheitskommisssions " and all use it for their ).
Thanks to the spokesman for the disabled children the time, "Helmut Jacob, is the completed in May 2010 by Prof. Dr. Manfred Kappes 17-page critique of the interim report of the" RTH "of 17.01.2010 still here @ http : / / www.gewalt-im-jhh.de/Kappeler_zu_ZB_RTH.pdf found (For there have Vollmer and Wiegand & Co. no control !).
UPDATE of Monday, 18 October 2010, at 21:00 clock (GMT) :
» 'record of results' of the 9th Meeting of the Roundtable residential care in the 50's and 60's on 20 / 21 September 2010 "
only since Monday, 18 October 2010, at 15:00 clock (CET) on the website of the office of the " RTH @ http://www.rundertisch-heimerziehung.de/documents/Ergebnisprotokoll_Sitzung9_RTH.pdf available [ this is a DIRECT LINK to this ' results log ' ! ] and also on the list of 'protocols' @ http://www.rundertisch-heimerziehung.de/aktuelles3.htm displayed [ this a DIRECT LINK is this list of ' result protocols ' ! ].
Speaking ALSO - that is to say about this ' results log ' and what this ' results log ' includes and what is not - in review 54 in review 58 and review 60 (top), "in this thread» Roundtable home education is a farce. The expected completion in December 2010 report is ready in August 2010. "in home child-forum.de on 13 October 2010.
The lawless body which is " Round Table called home education in the 50s and 60s ," about the Antje Vollmer chaired keeps lagging behind. And that's only now THERE appears to be, of course THERE not stated; the release date, as always with these ' summary proceedings ' missing.
CROSS REFERENCE : » Regarding this forum» HOME EDUCATION ROUND TABLE ": Should the federal press conference degenerated in terms of victims home to the festival of harmony? "@ http://heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/2010/10/betreffend-diesem-gremium-runder-tisch.html
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My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: A hearing or proceeding without QUALIFIED legal counsel, the law is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "law", where attempts to restrict it.
My [ie. Martin Mitchell's] own current signature: negotiation with The Perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without QUALIFIED legal counsel present and by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapacity and incapability of a country's "constitutionality" and it's "democracy".
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" We must not wait until the freedom struggle, called treason '. "(Erich Kästner )
Saturday, October 9, 2010
Humor Quotes About Gym
just in the church and politics, in the state legislatures and in the Bundestag, a lot of "Blender" means. Just think of Antje Vollmer, the vice president retired
.
EVERYWHERE you should go protest spontaneously - and Others v. Antje Vollmer personally !
increase the pressure !
Protest on all upcoming events by Antje Vollmer !
Antje Vollmer's Verantstaltungsangaben on her personal website at the ALLIANCE 90 THE GREEN parliamentary group BANNER @ http://www.antje-vollmer.de/
Tuesday, 12th October 2010
book launch in the German Resistance Memorial
book presentation "double life - Henry and love of God Lehndorff in the resistance against Hitler and von Ribbentrop"
event: [ book reading by Antje Vollmer ]
Date, Time 10.12.2010, 12:00
Location: Berlin
Address: Stauffenbergstr. 13-14, Hall A, 2nd OG 10785 Berlin
@ http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/352/352703.buchvorstellung_in_der_gedenkstaette_deu.html
Tuesday, 19th October 2010
Literature Festival 2010 Bielefeld
book reading from my new book "double life - Henry and love of God Lehndorff in the resistance against Hitler and von Ribbentrop"
event: [ Book reading by Antje Vollmer ]
Date, Time 19.10.2010, 20:00
Location: Central Library
Address: Jahnplatz, input Wilhelmstr. 3
@ http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/351/351730.literaturtage_bielefeld_2010.html
Friday, 12th November 2010 Political
Eleventh night prayer at Munster
preaching to the Political Night Prayer at Munster :
Matthew 18, 21-22
"Not seven times but seventy times ..."
The tension between justice and forgiveness
( truth commissions , children in etc.)
event: sermon, "Not seven times but seventy times ..."
Date, Time 12.11.2010, 19:30 to 21:15
Location: Münster
Address: Johannisstraße
Peter's Church in Münster
[ As a former Jesuit church of St. Peter's Church is the nucleus of the University of Münster. It is located on the campus between Fürstenberghaus, legal and Catholic theological faculty. ]
@ http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/355/355789.elftes_politisches_nachtgebet_zu_muenste.html
Sunday, 21st November 2010
Polis Europe - "The future of image and text"
future of image and text more
event: political-cultural discussion in the German National Theater Weimar
Date, Time: 21/11/2010 , 11:00
Location: Deutsches National Theater Weimar
Address: Burgplatz 4
99423 Weimar
@ http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/327/327854.polis_europa_zukunft_von_bild_und_schrif.html
Tuesday, 30th November 2010
book launch in Wiesbaden Market Church on Castle Square
"double life - Henry and Gottlieb von Lehndorff in the resistance against Hitler and von Ribbentrop"
event: [ book reading by Antje Vollmer ]
date, time : 30.11.2010, 19:30
Location: Wiesbaden Marktkirche
Address: Am Schlossplatz 4 65183 Wiesbaden
@ http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/353/ 353347.buchvorstellung_in_wiesbadener_marktkirc.html
Thursday, 9th December 2010
10th Round table meeting residential care
event: reappraisal of residential care in the 50s and 60s in the Federal Republic of Germany
Date, Time 09/12/2010 - 12/10/2010, 14:00
Location: Berlin
address : Luis
Straße 32-34 Berlin, German Bundestag @
http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/344/344090.10_sitzung_runder_tisch_heimerziehung.html
activism, ie, joint action is our goal striving Parole ! should --- the slogan of every individual we are !
Together we are strong !
not discharge !!!!!
call of "former foster child," Martin MITCHELL Australia
NOTE: I understand requires a spontaneous protest by a few people no prior police permission. It's not a demonstration. Cameras and video cameras are not forgotten.
NOTE: Some of the forward- ANNOUNCED are since 9 October 2010 - probably under instructions from Antje Vollmer - a little bit has been modified from its webmaster , although the Dates have not been modified. More items, visit also there with Antje Vollmer back again even : RECOMMENDATION.
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My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: a hearing or a trial without qualified legal counsel, the law is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "law", where attempts to restrict it.
My [ie. Martin Mitchell's] own current signature: negotiation with The Perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without QUALIFIED legal counsel present and by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation – a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapability and incapacity of a country’s "constitutionality" and it’s "democracy".
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„ Man darf nicht warten, bis der Freiheitskampf ‚Landesverrat‘ genannt wird. “ ( Erich Kästner )
.
EVERYWHERE you should go protest spontaneously - and Others v. Antje Vollmer personally !
increase the pressure !
Protest on all upcoming events by Antje Vollmer !
Tuesday, 12th October 2010
book launch in the German Resistance Memorial
book presentation "double life - Henry and love of God Lehndorff in the resistance against Hitler and von Ribbentrop"
event: [ book reading by Antje Vollmer ]
Date, Time 10.12.2010, 12:00
Location: Berlin
Address: Stauffenbergstr. 13-14, Hall A, 2nd OG 10785 Berlin
@ http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/352/352703.buchvorstellung_in_der_gedenkstaette_deu.html
Tuesday, 19th October 2010
Literature Festival 2010 Bielefeld
book reading from my new book "double life - Henry and love of God Lehndorff in the resistance against Hitler and von Ribbentrop"
event: [ Book reading by Antje Vollmer ]
Date, Time 19.10.2010, 20:00
Location: Central Library
Address: Jahnplatz, input Wilhelmstr. 3
@ http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/351/351730.literaturtage_bielefeld_2010.html
Friday, 12th November 2010 Political
Eleventh night prayer at Munster
preaching to the Political Night Prayer at Munster :
Matthew 18, 21-22
"Not seven times but seventy times ..."
The tension between justice and forgiveness
( truth commissions , children in etc.)
event: sermon, "Not seven times but seventy times ..."
Date, Time 12.11.2010, 19:30 to 21:15
Location: Münster
Address: Johannisstraße
Peter's Church in Münster
[ As a former Jesuit church of St. Peter's Church is the nucleus of the University of Münster. It is located on the campus between Fürstenberghaus, legal and Catholic theological faculty. ]
@ http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/355/355789.elftes_politisches_nachtgebet_zu_muenste.html
Sunday, 21st November 2010
Polis Europe - "The future of image and text"
future of image and text more
event: political-cultural discussion in the German National Theater Weimar
Date, Time: 21/11/2010 , 11:00
Location: Deutsches National Theater Weimar
Address: Burgplatz 4
99423 Weimar
@ http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/327/327854.polis_europa_zukunft_von_bild_und_schrif.html
Tuesday, 30th November 2010
book launch in Wiesbaden Market Church on Castle Square
"double life - Henry and Gottlieb von Lehndorff in the resistance against Hitler and von Ribbentrop"
event: [ book reading by Antje Vollmer ]
date, time : 30.11.2010, 19:30
Location: Wiesbaden Marktkirche
Address: Am Schlossplatz 4 65183 Wiesbaden
@ http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/353/ 353347.buchvorstellung_in_wiesbadener_marktkirc.html
Thursday, 9th December 2010
10th Round table meeting residential care
event: reappraisal of residential care in the 50s and 60s in the Federal Republic of Germany
Date, Time 09/12/2010 - 12/10/2010, 14:00
Location: Berlin
address : Luis
Straße 32-34 Berlin, German Bundestag @
http://www.antje-vollmer.de/cms/default/dok/344/344090.10_sitzung_runder_tisch_heimerziehung.html
activism, ie, joint action is our goal striving Parole ! should --- the slogan of every individual we are !
Together we are strong !
not discharge !!!!!
call of "former foster child," Martin MITCHELL Australia
NOTE: I understand requires a spontaneous protest by a few people no prior police permission. It's not a demonstration. Cameras and video cameras are not forgotten.
NOTE: Some of the forward- ANNOUNCED are since 9 October 2010 - probably under instructions from Antje Vollmer - a little bit has been modified from its webmaster , although the Dates have not been modified. More items, visit also there with Antje Vollmer back again even : RECOMMENDATION.
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Everyone can also HERE a substantive comment in this FORMER HOME KIDS BLOG 2 to this " in the church and politics in the diets and in the Bundestag, a lot of "Blender" means. Just think of Antje Vollmer, former Vice-President Bundestag "report - AND ALSO TO EACH OTHER IN THIS REPORT BLOG ! - give, and every such comment will then be HERE also visible to all readers.
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_________________________________________________________________
My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: a hearing or a trial without qualified legal counsel, the law is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "law", where attempts to restrict it.
My [ie. Martin Mitchell's] own current signature: negotiation with The Perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without QUALIFIED legal counsel present and by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation – a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapability and incapacity of a country’s "constitutionality" and it’s "democracy".
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„ Man darf nicht warten, bis der Freiheitskampf ‚Landesverrat‘ genannt wird. “ ( Erich Kästner )
Monday, October 4, 2010
Where Shoe Scholl Singapore
need ignorance of forced labor and any other injustice and suffering, not to be
children in care activist Rolf Breitfeld am very much for all of us.
Larger photos of Rolf Breitfeld moored on this wall poster (on which the writing is legible), can be found here @ http://www.heimkinder-ueberlebende.org / report-from-former-home child-Rolf-Breitfeld Jg.1948-about-the-volunteer educational support and parental care-education-or-die-then-Kinderquaelerei-in-Glueckstadt-Schleswig-Holstein.html ( All three of these photos are private photos published with the consent of the photographer as well, with the permission of all persons shown in it. Unlimited use rights for all for non-commercial purposes. )
On Sunday, 26 September 2010, was in Detlefsen Museum , in Glückstadt , in Schleswig-Holstein (just outside the territories, then the Hanseatic City of Hamburg) open a traveling exhibition that is " FÜR.SORGE.ERZIEHUNG - answer - tell - remember "calls and dealing with postwar Germany for many Decades of sustained " correctional education " - and the massive injustice and suffering that this " correctional education " not only in the " country care home Glückstadt " (1949-1974), but also in many other similar "closed children - and youth welfare DEVICES" (as, for example, in " Institute sanctuary " in Lower Saxony !), and in many various church and state ' homes ' many young people in the Federal Republic of Germany, caused - is involved.
In Detlefsen Museum , in Glückstadt , this traveling exhibition will run until the end of October 2010. Previously (18.05.2010 - 15.06.2010) was this traveling exhibition for the first time in the state House of Schleswig-Holstein, Kiel accommodated, and the opening of the exhibition there was also the book " country care home Glückstadt 1949-74: residents - history - conception "by Irene and John Christian published Scraper ( http://www.amazon.de/Landesf% C3% BCrsorgeheim-Gl% C3% BCckstadt-1949-74 -Geschichte-Konzeption/dp/3529027480 )
hpd - Humanist Press
forced labor - 4 Oct 2010 - 14:22 No 10 371
Für.Sorge.Erziehung in Glückstadt
@ http://hpd.de/node/10371 (total 4 pages, plus 2 attachments) (with many also from there links)
SHZ . de - Schleswig-Holstein ( 19.05.2010) " history of home education -" "apology is not enough" "@ http://www.shz.de/nachrichten/schleswig-holstein/artikeldetail/article//entschuldigung-allein -Suffice-nicht.html
NEWS @ http://www.fuer-sorge-erziehung.de/de/aktuelles
(with many also from there links)
Irene Johns and Christian Scraper @ http://www.fuer-sorge-erziehung.de/pages/index/16
(with many photos and also from there further links)
Rolf Breifeld @ http://www.fuer-sorge-erziehung.de/pages/index/17
(with many also from there links)
Dr. Gitta Trauernicht , MdL @ http://www.fuer-sorge-erziehung.de/pages/index/14
(with many also from there links)
Social Minister Dr. Heiner Garg @ http://www.fuer-sorge-erziehung.de/pages/index/15
(with many also from there further Left)
New Germany (28/09/2010) @ http://www.neues-deutschland.de/artikel/180554.lokaltermin-am-tatort.html
SHZ . de - NORTH GERMAN REVIEW (09/27/2010) @ http://www.shz.de/nachrichten/lokales/norddeutsche-rundschau/artikeldetails/article/797/gequaelt-misshandelt-und-missbraucht . html
Detlefsen Museum Glückstadt @ http://www.detlefsen-museum.de/pages/veranstaltungen/aus10/aus10_fuersorge.htm
» care home country Glückstadt 1949-74 " [ see there also refer to the previously known data and Ausstelllungsorten ] @ http://www.wachholtz.de/cat_1l.html? & tt_products = 8912 & cHash = bfea47c2e9 http://www.heimkinder-ueberlebende.org/Bericht-von
The story of Glückstadt in combination with the personal life of Rolf wide field in his youth @ -former-home child-Rolf-Breitfeld Jg.1948-about-the-volunteer educational support and parental care-education-or-die-then-Kinderquaelerei-in-Glueckstadt-Schleswig-Holstein.html
CROSS REFERENCE : » " Former foster child "/" ex-Glückstädter "ROLF WIDE FIELD speech from 18.04.2010 opening in Schleswig-Holstein the exhibition" CARE EDUCATION. "@ http://heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/2010/05/ehemaliges-heimkindex-gluckstadter-rolf.html
NOTE: The individual URLs for the two larger photos of the above illustrated poster, are: http://www.heimkinder-ueberlebende.org/Gedenktafel-Glueckstadt_-_In-Erinnerung-an-die-toten-Heimkinder-im-Landesfuersorgeheim-in-Glueckstadt-in-den-50er-60er- and 70-Jahren_-_A.jpg (Photo by larger font) and http://www.heimkinder-ueberlebende.org/Gedenktafel-Glueckstadt_-_In-Erinnerung-an-die-toten-Heimkinder-im-Landesfuersorgeheim-in-Glueckstadt-in-den-50er (to be written large enough to read without glasses on)-60s and-70s-Jahren_ _B.jpg .
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Everyone can also HERE a substantive comment in this FORMER HOME KIDS BLOG 2 to this " ignorance on forced labor and about each other injustice and suffering and need not be in the group "Round Table home education" in Berlin, "Report - AND ALSO TO EACH OTHER IN THIS REPORT BLOG ! - give, and every such comment will then be HERE also visible to all readers.
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_________________________________________________________________
My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: A hearing or proceeding without qualified legal counsel, the law is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "law" tries where this is limiting.
My [ ie. Martin MITCHELL’s ] own current signature: Negotiation with the perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without QUALIFIED legal counsel present and by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation – a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapability and incapacity of a country’s "constitutionality" and it’s "democracy".
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„ Man darf nicht warten, bis der Freiheitskampf ‚Landesverrat‘ is called. "(Erich Kästner )
.
It is idiotic in the face of all evidence "FORCED LABOR" not recognized as such !
It is idiotic in the face of all evidence "FORCED LABOR" not recognized as such !
children in care activist Rolf Breitfeld am very much for all of us.
On Sunday, 26 September 2010, was in Detlefsen Museum , in Glückstadt , in Schleswig-Holstein (just outside the territories, then the Hanseatic City of Hamburg) open a traveling exhibition that is " FÜR.SORGE.ERZIEHUNG - answer - tell - remember "calls and dealing with postwar Germany for many Decades of sustained " correctional education " - and the massive injustice and suffering that this " correctional education " not only in the " country care home Glückstadt " (1949-1974), but also in many other similar "closed children - and youth welfare DEVICES" (as, for example, in " Institute sanctuary " in Lower Saxony !), and in many various church and state ' homes ' many young people in the Federal Republic of Germany, caused - is involved.
In Detlefsen Museum , in Glückstadt , this traveling exhibition will run until the end of October 2010. Previously (18.05.2010 - 15.06.2010) was this traveling exhibition for the first time in the state House of Schleswig-Holstein, Kiel accommodated, and the opening of the exhibition there was also the book " country care home Glückstadt 1949-74: residents - history - conception "by Irene and John Christian published Scraper ( http://www.amazon.de/Landesf% C3% BCrsorgeheim-Gl% C3% BCckstadt-1949-74 -Geschichte-Konzeption/dp/3529027480 )
hpd - Humanist Press
forced labor - 4 Oct 2010 - 14:22 No 10 371
Für.Sorge.Erziehung in Glückstadt
@ http://hpd.de/node/10371 (total 4 pages, plus 2 attachments) (with many also from there links)
SHZ . de - Schleswig-Holstein ( 19.05.2010) " history of home education -" "apology is not enough" "@ http://www.shz.de/nachrichten/schleswig-holstein/artikeldetail/article//entschuldigung-allein -Suffice-nicht.html
NEWS @ http://www.fuer-sorge-erziehung.de/de/aktuelles
(with many also from there links)
Irene Johns and Christian Scraper @ http://www.fuer-sorge-erziehung.de/pages/index/16
(with many photos and also from there further links)
Rolf Breifeld @ http://www.fuer-sorge-erziehung.de/pages/index/17
(with many also from there links)
Dr. Gitta Trauernicht , MdL @ http://www.fuer-sorge-erziehung.de/pages/index/14
(with many also from there links)
Social Minister Dr. Heiner Garg @ http://www.fuer-sorge-erziehung.de/pages/index/15
(with many also from there further Left)
New Germany (28/09/2010) @ http://www.neues-deutschland.de/artikel/180554.lokaltermin-am-tatort.html
SHZ . de - NORTH GERMAN REVIEW (09/27/2010) @ http://www.shz.de/nachrichten/lokales/norddeutsche-rundschau/artikeldetails/article/797/gequaelt-misshandelt-und-missbraucht . html
Detlefsen Museum Glückstadt @ http://www.detlefsen-museum.de/pages/veranstaltungen/aus10/aus10_fuersorge.htm
» care home country Glückstadt 1949-74 " [ see there also refer to the previously known data and Ausstelllungsorten ] @ http://www.wachholtz.de/cat_1l.html? & tt_products = 8912 & cHash = bfea47c2e9 http://www.heimkinder-ueberlebende.org/Bericht-von
The story of Glückstadt in combination with the personal life of Rolf wide field in his youth @ -former-home child-Rolf-Breitfeld Jg.1948-about-the-volunteer educational support and parental care-education-or-die-then-Kinderquaelerei-in-Glueckstadt-Schleswig-Holstein.html
CROSS REFERENCE : » " Former foster child "/" ex-Glückstädter "ROLF WIDE FIELD speech from 18.04.2010 opening in Schleswig-Holstein the exhibition" CARE EDUCATION. "@ http://heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/2010/05/ehemaliges-heimkindex-gluckstadter-rolf.html
NOTE: The individual URLs for the two larger photos of the above illustrated poster, are: http://www.heimkinder-ueberlebende.org/Gedenktafel-Glueckstadt_-_In-Erinnerung-an-die-toten-Heimkinder-im-Landesfuersorgeheim-in-Glueckstadt-in-den-50er-60er- and 70-Jahren_-_A.jpg (Photo by larger font) and http://www.heimkinder-ueberlebende.org/Gedenktafel-Glueckstadt_-_In-Erinnerung-an-die-toten-Heimkinder-im-Landesfuersorgeheim-in-Glueckstadt-in-den-50er (to be written large enough to read without glasses on)-60s and-70s-Jahren_ _B.jpg .
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Everyone can also HERE a substantive comment in this FORMER HOME KIDS BLOG 2 to this " ignorance on forced labor and about each other injustice and suffering and need not be in the group "Round Table home education" in Berlin, "Report - AND ALSO TO EACH OTHER IN THIS REPORT BLOG ! - give, and every such comment will then be HERE also visible to all readers.
comments = comments can of Post a Comment click buttons in the footer of this paper submitted to (ie, use a scroll little bit down, there is the Post a Comment to find buttons).
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_________________________________________________________________
My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: A hearing or proceeding without qualified legal counsel, the law is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "law" tries where this is limiting.
My [ ie. Martin MITCHELL’s ] own current signature: Negotiation with the perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without QUALIFIED legal counsel present and by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation – a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapability and incapacity of a country’s "constitutionality" and it’s "democracy".
__________________________________
„ Man darf nicht warten, bis der Freiheitskampf ‚Landesverrat‘ is called. "(Erich Kästner )
Friday, October 1, 2010
Chest Infection Baby 4 Months
Hans Siegfried Wiegand's allies, Darmstadt psychologist Erika Tkocz in the group "Round Table home education" in Berlin, leans against the reporting by Australian Martin Mitchell on
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[ Re: » Roundtable residential care in the 50s and 60s " --- patron Dr. Antje Vollmer , Bundestag Vice President Retired ]
that was not enough - they The German psychologist Erika Tkocz wants to belittle the Australian Martin Mitchell personally. Yes, exactly: it is true, but incomprehensible and did not understand what they want to achieve. A general be subordinate to Wiegand and Tkocz and ultimately an in joining and classifying according to the prescribed line of Dr. Antje Vollmer at the "round table " ?
In one of her page commentary (@ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es- must-be-something-more expensive-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-491 ) of 26 September 2010, clock 14:42 (CET) in Dierk Schaefer's Blog , on « with compensation for abuse one is faster in Austria, and there must be something more expensive than the Piefkes. "@ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es-darf-auch-etwas- expensive-is-as-in-the-Piefkes /
» rumors
lives of these unsecured messages and are well apparently of interest, because they meet existing expectations. Who may well be the people who are content with such rumors / speculation, because rumors are also show voltage conditions, which if one here your comments very much, Mr Shepherd now reads beyond the borders of the former Children in care go out.
Now you will be able to think quickly to rumors that arise when a lack of information / education there and at first glance I would agree there do too. But only at first glance, because recent experience has shown that rumors stop now not even if you give more information. For example, the notice OUR solution concepts have led to comments received, which featured not only in question, this - to have OUR developed ideas. No, there were people who almost literally OUR have written it off as a model for resolution and yours. can
Now if you read then the "Permanent effusions by Martin Mitchell you have to give up hope that a full disclosure will change anything in the rumor mill.
No, come then I rather to the conclusion that any gossip / speculation such thing as a community of supposedly knowing is made, those people will be strengthened through mutually shared feelings of malice or moral indignation, and I only hope remains that Mr. Shepherd, they do not belong to that group.
So I would hope in the future but a somewhat more objective reporting, because I guess their reporting and to critical perspectives can not be criticized, but against rumors already, because they lead to nothing.
However, I am assuming that is read in the next few minutes of the round table also that OUR former YOUR presented Lösunsgmodell.
Erika Tkocz «« «
[ Some people Erika Tkocz is only as" Örni "known ]
Then, the following substantive comment by the Protestant theologians and psychologists Dierk Schäfer itself of 26 September 2010, at 19:39 clock ( CET) @ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es-darf-auch-etwas- expensive-is-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-493
» The rumor mill, Mrs Tkocz her stove fire relates to the absence of information, where information would be necessary. The children in care representatives at the round table [ mainly Dr. Hans-Siegfried Wiegand and 'to be' "working group" which includes Erika Tkocz and Michael Peter Schiltsky part, although the latter two not even sit at the "round table" ] could [ circulating since before the 8/24/2010 ] their proposals with a request for correction and additions. It is a mystery to me why they are not in the same way after [ 9th have informed ] meeting of the Roundtable [ on 20./21.09.2010 ] at least all who have worked constructively to improve proposals, that were introduced and in what form the proposed solutions. Here there is no visible reason for secrecy . Because of the round table enjoys because of its composition and its work to date not just the trust of a large number of ex-institutionalized children may not be surprised if rumors emerge that match the performance of the previous work at the round table.
write: " However, I am assuming that is read in the next few minutes of the round table also that OUR former [ is supposedly on here only talk Wiegand ! have ] YOUR presented a model solution. "I say: Let us hope that it might also be in the protocol and thus" officially "is.
Regards
ds «« «
then logs Heidi then Dettinger, Secretary of the Association of former children in care ( VEHeV "/" VEH "/" VEH eV) with the following substantive comment to speak - on 26 September 2010, at 21:37 (GMT) - @ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und -it-must-be-something-more expensive-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-496
» It's strange:
● Dr. Wiegand abseil from the PDB from (and it is free of course!)
● After a short time it is, the VEH work counterproductive (is also free to anyone to think that or say!)
● then the criticism increases the PDB to absolutely ridiculous accusations (since it is a bit weird!)
● then asked the PDB to work with the children in care representatives at RTH, support them on the "home straight" - even if they previously ruled out - some say tricked - were (to be made, the board meets, tries hard, the RA is made in connection with Mr. Wiegand, the solutions proposed by Mr. W. to be taken seriously, discussed by word for word, according filed the request a little here, a little there, the lawyer put it - it is supposed to eventually be all quite right! - Some parts around to it and to make legally tenable, the whole is sent to all representatives and their alternates at RTH ...)
● there is a noise going through the print! Children in care are in agreement, "a source of joy, one would think - a reason to fear for the "other side"?
Can someone explain to me why suddenly Mr. Wiegand and Ms. Tkocz is a scream ... And the bad guys are not the perpetrators, not the perpetrator organizations, not the ones trying with all his might to bring the survivors of their own crimes (in the figurative sense) to the much-needed funds and therapies in private institutions. No! The bad guys are once again the PDB and its officers.
watts for ham wa nu jemacht wrong again? «« «
for the weather to the Australian children in care activists, Martin Mitchell, and against his continued for years tireless publicity and educational work for" former children in care "is the German psychologist Erika Tkocz even now already known at least since mid-July 2009, which the following their page commentary in the church organization " action man on 9 Augsut 2009 shows, which it has been there too carried away: dieGesellschafter.de @ http://diegesellschafter.de/diskussion/forum/thread.php?fid=12&nid=169886 & , z1 = z2 = 1285906901 & 78e1003f6acf19455dbc695d224bea08
» Re: former home children fight - instead of dialogue to seek
of Erika Tkocz (registered member)
relates to argue that review [ to here in the header specified topic ]
9:08:09, 13:55 clock
former children in care - rather than seek dialogue
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miracles Please do not have the kind in which Mr. Mitchell wrote his articles / postings. He does so in other forums, endless repetitive monologues, unable to use forums as appropriate. If it then does not work out what he wants, he then all of you as victims, and distributed worldwide since the rumors that he is censored. His usual tactic for his victim to maintain. In
Diakonia - Forum he has been locked so and that is a good thing! [ an exclusion which I , Erika Tkocz , personally orchestrated, organized and initiated ! ]
For his report himself, I would only write so much that he does not represent the interests of the former resident, but only the interests of the association for former children in care (PDB), which are not the majority of the former children in care and thus have no relevance!
Erika Tkocz «« «
[ Some people Erika Tkocz is only as " Örni " known ]
ADDENDUM:
http://dierkschaefer And Dierk Schafer's Blog @ .wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es-darf-auch-etwas-teurer-sein-als-bei-den Piefkes-/ # comment-504 Martin Mitchell of Australians today, Saturday, 2 October 2010, at 04:14 clock (GMT) following left another comment:
» Why is the answer that" the really knowledgeable " are, or where THE , THE MY " the really knowledgeable " TO BE (also Erika Tkocz , Helmut Jacob and Sabine S. include ! ), not just by me - top @ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller- and it may-be-too-little-more expensive-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-483 - on 24 September 2010 at 17:17 clock (GMT) asked questions and give THE ANSWERS , THE ALL WANT TO KNOW To here from the YOU denounced in YOUR comments alleged " speculation" to put an end? «« «
CROSS REFERENCE : » ignorance in all its glory: Dr. Hans-Siegfried Wiegand 'children in care representatives', has einschwören from the start on the line of Vollmer can "@ http://heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/2010/09/ignoranz-in-vollem-glanz-dr-hans.html
CROSS REFERENCE : » What a rechtsbeugendes body because of this" round table home education "in Berlin, on the Dr. Antje Vollmer chaired last? "@ http://heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/2010/10/was-fur-ein-rechtsbeugendes-gremium-ist.html
CROSS REFERENCE : » Antje Vollmer" Round Table gets home education "patron continue the entirely legitimate discontent" Former home children "feel. "@ http://heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/2010/09/antje-vollmer-runder-tisch.html
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Each also HERE a substantive comment in this FORMER HOME KIDS BLOG 2 can cause this " Siegfried Hans Wiegand's allies, Darmstadt psychologist Erika Tkocz, leans against the reporting of the Australian Martin Mitchell on "report - AND ALSO TO EACH OTHER IN THIS REPORT BLOG ! - give, and a any such comment is then HERE be visible to all readers.
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My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: A hearing or proceeding without qualified legal counsel, the law is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "Rule of Law" tries to find out this is limiting.
My [ie. Martin Mitchell's] own current signature: negotiation with The Perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without legal counsel present and QUALIFIED by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapacity and incapability of a country's "constitutionality" and it's "democracy".
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" We must not wait until the freedom struggle, called treason '. "(Erich Kästner )
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[ Re: » Roundtable residential care in the 50s and 60s " --- patron Dr. Antje Vollmer , Bundestag Vice President Retired ]
that was not enough - they The German psychologist Erika Tkocz wants to belittle the Australian Martin Mitchell personally. Yes, exactly: it is true, but incomprehensible and did not understand what they want to achieve. A general be subordinate to Wiegand and Tkocz and ultimately an in joining and classifying according to the prescribed line of Dr. Antje Vollmer at the "round table " ?
In one of her page commentary (@ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es- must-be-something-more expensive-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-491 ) of 26 September 2010, clock 14:42 (CET) in Dierk Schaefer's Blog , on « with compensation for abuse one is faster in Austria, and there must be something more expensive than the Piefkes. "@ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es-darf-auch-etwas- expensive-is-as-in-the-Piefkes /
» rumors
lives of these unsecured messages and are well apparently of interest, because they meet existing expectations. Who may well be the people who are content with such rumors / speculation, because rumors are also show voltage conditions, which if one here your comments very much, Mr Shepherd now reads beyond the borders of the former Children in care go out.
Now you will be able to think quickly to rumors that arise when a lack of information / education there and at first glance I would agree there do too. But only at first glance, because recent experience has shown that rumors stop now not even if you give more information. For example, the notice OUR solution concepts have led to comments received, which featured not only in question, this - to have OUR developed ideas. No, there were people who almost literally OUR have written it off as a model for resolution and yours. can
Now if you read then the "Permanent effusions by Martin Mitchell you have to give up hope that a full disclosure will change anything in the rumor mill.
No, come then I rather to the conclusion that any gossip / speculation such thing as a community of supposedly knowing is made, those people will be strengthened through mutually shared feelings of malice or moral indignation, and I only hope remains that Mr. Shepherd, they do not belong to that group.
So I would hope in the future but a somewhat more objective reporting, because I guess their reporting and to critical perspectives can not be criticized, but against rumors already, because they lead to nothing.
However, I am assuming that is read in the next few minutes of the round table also that OUR former YOUR presented Lösunsgmodell.
Erika Tkocz «« «
[ Some people Erika Tkocz is only as" Örni "known ]
Then, the following substantive comment by the Protestant theologians and psychologists Dierk Schäfer itself of 26 September 2010, at 19:39 clock ( CET) @ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es-darf-auch-etwas- expensive-is-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-493
» The rumor mill, Mrs Tkocz her stove fire relates to the absence of information, where information would be necessary. The children in care representatives at the round table [ mainly Dr. Hans-Siegfried Wiegand and 'to be' "working group" which includes Erika Tkocz and Michael Peter Schiltsky part, although the latter two not even sit at the "round table" ] could [ circulating since before the 8/24/2010 ] their proposals with a request for correction and additions. It is a mystery to me why they are not in the same way after [ 9th have informed ] meeting of the Roundtable [ on 20./21.09.2010 ] at least all who have worked constructively to improve proposals, that were introduced and in what form the proposed solutions. Here there is no visible reason for secrecy . Because of the round table enjoys because of its composition and its work to date not just the trust of a large number of ex-institutionalized children may not be surprised if rumors emerge that match the performance of the previous work at the round table.
write: " However, I am assuming that is read in the next few minutes of the round table also that OUR former [ is supposedly on here only talk Wiegand ! have ] YOUR presented a model solution. "I say: Let us hope that it might also be in the protocol and thus" officially "is.
Regards
ds «« «
then logs Heidi then Dettinger, Secretary of the Association of former children in care ( VEHeV "/" VEH "/" VEH eV) with the following substantive comment to speak - on 26 September 2010, at 21:37 (GMT) - @ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und -it-must-be-something-more expensive-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-496
» It's strange:
● Dr. Wiegand abseil from the PDB from (and it is free of course!)
● After a short time it is, the VEH work counterproductive (is also free to anyone to think that or say!)
● then the criticism increases the PDB to absolutely ridiculous accusations (since it is a bit weird!)
● then asked the PDB to work with the children in care representatives at RTH, support them on the "home straight" - even if they previously ruled out - some say tricked - were (to be made, the board meets, tries hard, the RA is made in connection with Mr. Wiegand, the solutions proposed by Mr. W. to be taken seriously, discussed by word for word, according filed the request a little here, a little there, the lawyer put it - it is supposed to eventually be all quite right! - Some parts around to it and to make legally tenable, the whole is sent to all representatives and their alternates at RTH ...)
● there is a noise going through the print! Children in care are in agreement, "a source of joy, one would think - a reason to fear for the "other side"?
Can someone explain to me why suddenly Mr. Wiegand and Ms. Tkocz is a scream ... And the bad guys are not the perpetrators, not the perpetrator organizations, not the ones trying with all his might to bring the survivors of their own crimes (in the figurative sense) to the much-needed funds and therapies in private institutions. No! The bad guys are once again the PDB and its officers.
watts for ham wa nu jemacht wrong again? «« «
for the weather to the Australian children in care activists, Martin Mitchell, and against his continued for years tireless publicity and educational work for" former children in care "is the German psychologist Erika Tkocz even now already known at least since mid-July 2009, which the following their page commentary in the church organization " action man on 9 Augsut 2009 shows, which it has been there too carried away: dieGesellschafter.de @ http://diegesellschafter.de/diskussion/forum/thread.php?fid=12&nid=169886 & , z1 = z2 = 1285906901 & 78e1003f6acf19455dbc695d224bea08
» Re: former home children fight - instead of dialogue to seek
of Erika Tkocz (registered member)
relates to argue that review [ to here in the header specified topic ]
9:08:09, 13:55 clock
former children in care - rather than seek dialogue
On the Admin
miracles Please do not have the kind in which Mr. Mitchell wrote his articles / postings. He does so in other forums, endless repetitive monologues, unable to use forums as appropriate. If it then does not work out what he wants, he then all of you as victims, and distributed worldwide since the rumors that he is censored. His usual tactic for his victim to maintain. In
Diakonia - Forum he has been locked so and that is a good thing! [ an exclusion which I , Erika Tkocz , personally orchestrated, organized and initiated ! ]
For his report himself, I would only write so much that he does not represent the interests of the former resident, but only the interests of the association for former children in care (PDB), which are not the majority of the former children in care and thus have no relevance!
Erika Tkocz «« «
[ Some people Erika Tkocz is only as " Örni " known ]
ADDENDUM:
http://dierkschaefer And Dierk Schafer's Blog @ .wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es-darf-auch-etwas-teurer-sein-als-bei-den Piefkes-/ # comment-504 Martin Mitchell of Australians today, Saturday, 2 October 2010, at 04:14 clock (GMT) following left another comment:
» Why is the answer that" the really knowledgeable " are, or where THE , THE MY " the really knowledgeable " TO BE (also Erika Tkocz , Helmut Jacob and Sabine S. include ! ), not just by me - top @ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller- and it may-be-too-little-more expensive-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-483 - on 24 September 2010 at 17:17 clock (GMT) asked questions and give THE ANSWERS , THE ALL WANT TO KNOW To here from the YOU denounced in YOUR comments alleged " speculation" to put an end? «« «
CROSS REFERENCE : » ignorance in all its glory: Dr. Hans-Siegfried Wiegand 'children in care representatives', has einschwören from the start on the line of Vollmer can "@ http://heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/2010/09/ignoranz-in-vollem-glanz-dr-hans.html
CROSS REFERENCE : » What a rechtsbeugendes body because of this" round table home education "in Berlin, on the Dr. Antje Vollmer chaired last? "@ http://heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/2010/10/was-fur-ein-rechtsbeugendes-gremium-ist.html
CROSS REFERENCE : » Antje Vollmer" Round Table gets home education "patron continue the entirely legitimate discontent" Former home children "feel. "@
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Each also HERE a substantive comment in this FORMER HOME KIDS BLOG 2 can cause this " Siegfried Hans Wiegand's allies, Darmstadt psychologist Erika Tkocz, leans against the reporting of the Australian Martin Mitchell on "report - AND ALSO TO EACH OTHER IN THIS REPORT BLOG ! - give, and a any such comment is then HERE be visible to all readers.
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_________________________________________________________________
My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: A hearing or proceeding without qualified legal counsel, the law is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "Rule of Law" tries to find out this is limiting.
My [ie. Martin Mitchell's] own current signature: negotiation with The Perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without legal counsel present and QUALIFIED by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapacity and incapability of a country's "constitutionality" and it's "democracy".
__________________________________
" We must not wait until the freedom struggle, called treason '. "(Erich Kästner )
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