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[ Re: » Roundtable residential care in the 50s and 60s " --- patron Dr. Antje Vollmer , Bundestag Vice President Retired ]
that was not enough - they The German psychologist Erika Tkocz wants to belittle the Australian Martin Mitchell personally. Yes, exactly: it is true, but incomprehensible and did not understand what they want to achieve. A general be subordinate to Wiegand and Tkocz and ultimately an in joining and classifying according to the prescribed line of Dr. Antje Vollmer at the "round table " ?
In one of her page commentary (@ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es- must-be-something-more expensive-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-491 ) of 26 September 2010, clock 14:42 (CET) in Dierk Schaefer's Blog , on « with compensation for abuse one is faster in Austria, and there must be something more expensive than the Piefkes. "@ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es-darf-auch-etwas- expensive-is-as-in-the-Piefkes /
» rumors
lives of these unsecured messages and are well apparently of interest, because they meet existing expectations. Who may well be the people who are content with such rumors / speculation, because rumors are also show voltage conditions, which if one here your comments very much, Mr Shepherd now reads beyond the borders of the former Children in care go out.
Now you will be able to think quickly to rumors that arise when a lack of information / education there and at first glance I would agree there do too. But only at first glance, because recent experience has shown that rumors stop now not even if you give more information. For example, the notice OUR solution concepts have led to comments received, which featured not only in question, this - to have OUR developed ideas. No, there were people who almost literally OUR have written it off as a model for resolution and yours. can
Now if you read then the "Permanent effusions by Martin Mitchell you have to give up hope that a full disclosure will change anything in the rumor mill.
No, come then I rather to the conclusion that any gossip / speculation such thing as a community of supposedly knowing is made, those people will be strengthened through mutually shared feelings of malice or moral indignation, and I only hope remains that Mr. Shepherd, they do not belong to that group.
So I would hope in the future but a somewhat more objective reporting, because I guess their reporting and to critical perspectives can not be criticized, but against rumors already, because they lead to nothing.
However, I am assuming that is read in the next few minutes of the round table also that OUR former YOUR presented Lösunsgmodell.
Erika Tkocz «« «
[ Some people Erika Tkocz is only as" Örni "known ]
Then, the following substantive comment by the Protestant theologians and psychologists Dierk Schäfer itself of 26 September 2010, at 19:39 clock ( CET) @ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es-darf-auch-etwas- expensive-is-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-493
» The rumor mill, Mrs Tkocz her stove fire relates to the absence of information, where information would be necessary. The children in care representatives at the round table [ mainly Dr. Hans-Siegfried Wiegand and 'to be' "working group" which includes Erika Tkocz and Michael Peter Schiltsky part, although the latter two not even sit at the "round table" ] could [ circulating since before the 8/24/2010 ] their proposals with a request for correction and additions. It is a mystery to me why they are not in the same way after [ 9th have informed ] meeting of the Roundtable [ on 20./21.09.2010 ] at least all who have worked constructively to improve proposals, that were introduced and in what form the proposed solutions. Here there is no visible reason for secrecy . Because of the round table enjoys because of its composition and its work to date not just the trust of a large number of ex-institutionalized children may not be surprised if rumors emerge that match the performance of the previous work at the round table.
write: " However, I am assuming that is read in the next few minutes of the round table also that OUR former [ is supposedly on here only talk Wiegand ! have ] YOUR presented a model solution. "I say: Let us hope that it might also be in the protocol and thus" officially "is.
Regards
ds «« «
then logs Heidi then Dettinger, Secretary of the Association of former children in care ( VEHeV "/" VEH "/" VEH eV) with the following substantive comment to speak - on 26 September 2010, at 21:37 (GMT) - @ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und -it-must-be-something-more expensive-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-496
» It's strange:
● Dr. Wiegand abseil from the PDB from (and it is free of course!)
● After a short time it is, the VEH work counterproductive (is also free to anyone to think that or say!)
● then the criticism increases the PDB to absolutely ridiculous accusations (since it is a bit weird!)
● then asked the PDB to work with the children in care representatives at RTH, support them on the "home straight" - even if they previously ruled out - some say tricked - were (to be made, the board meets, tries hard, the RA is made in connection with Mr. Wiegand, the solutions proposed by Mr. W. to be taken seriously, discussed by word for word, according filed the request a little here, a little there, the lawyer put it - it is supposed to eventually be all quite right! - Some parts around to it and to make legally tenable, the whole is sent to all representatives and their alternates at RTH ...)
● there is a noise going through the print! Children in care are in agreement, "a source of joy, one would think - a reason to fear for the "other side"?
Can someone explain to me why suddenly Mr. Wiegand and Ms. Tkocz is a scream ... And the bad guys are not the perpetrators, not the perpetrator organizations, not the ones trying with all his might to bring the survivors of their own crimes (in the figurative sense) to the much-needed funds and therapies in private institutions. No! The bad guys are once again the PDB and its officers.
watts for ham wa nu jemacht wrong again? «« «
for the weather to the Australian children in care activists, Martin Mitchell, and against his continued for years tireless publicity and educational work for" former children in care "is the German psychologist Erika Tkocz even now already known at least since mid-July 2009, which the following their page commentary in the church organization " action man on 9 Augsut 2009 shows, which it has been there too carried away: dieGesellschafter.de @ http://diegesellschafter.de/diskussion/forum/thread.php?fid=12&nid=169886 & , z1 = z2 = 1285906901 & 78e1003f6acf19455dbc695d224bea08
» Re: former home children fight - instead of dialogue to seek
of Erika Tkocz (registered member)
relates to argue that review [ to here in the header specified topic ]
9:08:09, 13:55 clock
former children in care - rather than seek dialogue
On the Admin
miracles Please do not have the kind in which Mr. Mitchell wrote his articles / postings. He does so in other forums, endless repetitive monologues, unable to use forums as appropriate. If it then does not work out what he wants, he then all of you as victims, and distributed worldwide since the rumors that he is censored. His usual tactic for his victim to maintain. In
Diakonia - Forum he has been locked so and that is a good thing! [ an exclusion which I , Erika Tkocz , personally orchestrated, organized and initiated ! ]
For his report himself, I would only write so much that he does not represent the interests of the former resident, but only the interests of the association for former children in care (PDB), which are not the majority of the former children in care and thus have no relevance!
Erika Tkocz «« «
[ Some people Erika Tkocz is only as " Örni " known ]
ADDENDUM:
http://dierkschaefer And Dierk Schafer's Blog @ .wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller-und-es-darf-auch-etwas-teurer-sein-als-bei-den Piefkes-/ # comment-504 Martin Mitchell of Australians today, Saturday, 2 October 2010, at 04:14 clock (GMT) following left another comment:
» Why is the answer that" the really knowledgeable " are, or where THE , THE MY " the really knowledgeable " TO BE (also Erika Tkocz , Helmut Jacob and Sabine S. include ! ), not just by me - top @ http://dierkschaefer.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/mit-entschadigung-fur-misbrauch-ist-man-auch-in-osterreich-schneller- and it may-be-too-little-more expensive-as-in-the-Piefkes / # comment-483 - on 24 September 2010 at 17:17 clock (GMT) asked questions and give THE ANSWERS , THE ALL WANT TO KNOW To here from the YOU denounced in YOUR comments alleged " speculation" to put an end? «« «
CROSS REFERENCE : » ignorance in all its glory: Dr. Hans-Siegfried Wiegand 'children in care representatives', has einschwören from the start on the line of Vollmer can "@ http://heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/2010/09/ignoranz-in-vollem-glanz-dr-hans.html
CROSS REFERENCE : » What a rechtsbeugendes body because of this" round table home education "in Berlin, on the Dr. Antje Vollmer chaired last? "@ http://heimkinderopfer.blogspot.com/2010/10/was-fur-ein-rechtsbeugendes-gremium-ist.html
CROSS REFERENCE : » Antje Vollmer" Round Table gets home education "patron continue the entirely legitimate discontent" Former home children "feel. "@
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My [ie Martin Mitchell] own current signature: A hearing or proceeding without qualified legal counsel, the law is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and an indictment of every "democracy" and alleged "Rule of Law" tries to find out this is limiting.
My [ie. Martin Mitchell's] own current signature: negotiation with The Perpetrators, your detractors and opponents without legal counsel present and QUALIFIED by your side throughout and at all times, and without reliance upon the law and jurisprudence, is like a building without a foundation - a house of cards, and any attempt at curtailment of these rights is clear evidence of incompetence, incapacity and incapability of a country's "constitutionality" and it's "democracy".
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